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		<title>By: Perelandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perelandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GEMS THEIR LURE AND LORE also mentions the use of emerald against eye diseases. Emerald was the second stone on the high priest&#039;s jeweled breastplate in the OT [and therefore a stone-course of the Heavenly Jerusalem in Revelation]. It&#039;s the stone of Venus representing true happiness and is the stone of May and the sign Taurus.

From Joan Evans MAGICAL JEWELS, emerald is said to enhance conjugal love, bring freedom, and magnnify everything. (Think of Nero&#039;s emerald monocle).

The Elessar or Elfstone from which Aragorn takes his regnal name is an emerald, sign of hope. In one version of its history, was set in a brooch by the elvish smith Celebrimbor as a gift for Galadriel. Looking through it showed dead and withered things alive and fresh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GEMS THEIR LURE AND LORE also mentions the use of emerald against eye diseases. Emerald was the second stone on the high priest&#8217;s jeweled breastplate in the OT [and therefore a stone-course of the Heavenly Jerusalem in Revelation]. It&#8217;s the stone of Venus representing true happiness and is the stone of May and the sign Taurus.</p>
<p>From Joan Evans MAGICAL JEWELS, emerald is said to enhance conjugal love, bring freedom, and magnnify everything. (Think of Nero&#8217;s emerald monocle).</p>
<p>The Elessar or Elfstone from which Aragorn takes his regnal name is an emerald, sign of hope. In one version of its history, was set in a brooch by the elvish smith Celebrimbor as a gift for Galadriel. Looking through it showed dead and withered things alive and fresh.</p>
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		<title>By: Lily Luna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lily Luna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I wrote up what turned out to be my very extensive thoughts on the Quidditch World Cup and it&#039;s way too long to post as a reply (I wrote it up in Word with the idea of cutting and pasting but it&#039;s about 4 single-spaced pages).  I was searching the website for an email link to send it to John Granger separately in case he (or you, if you&#039;re reading this Mr. Granger) thought it worthy of posting as a primary post, but I can&#039;t seem to find his email address.  Any suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I wrote up what turned out to be my very extensive thoughts on the Quidditch World Cup and it&#8217;s way too long to post as a reply (I wrote it up in Word with the idea of cutting and pasting but it&#8217;s about 4 single-spaced pages).  I was searching the website for an email link to send it to John Granger separately in case he (or you, if you&#8217;re reading this Mr. Granger) thought it worthy of posting as a primary post, but I can&#8217;t seem to find his email address.  Any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And according to the Catholic Encyclopedia, on their entry on Precious Gems in the Bible:

&lt;i&gt;In the Middle Ages marvellous powers were attributed to the emerald, the most conspicuous being the power to preserve or heal the sight.&lt;/i&gt;

Given all the &quot;corrected vision&quot; going on in HP, this seems significant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And according to the Catholic Encyclopedia, on their entry on Precious Gems in the Bible:</p>
<p><i>In the Middle Ages marvellous powers were attributed to the emerald, the most conspicuous being the power to preserve or heal the sight.</i></p>
<p>Given all the &#8220;corrected vision&#8221; going on in HP, this seems significant.</p>
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		<title>By: rumor</title>
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		<dc:creator>rumor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red, green and gold huh? Well red and green are complementary colors on the color wheel. They are opposites: one is warm and one is cool. When mixed together all three primaries are represented, thus getting a brownish color. I think the symbolism in HP is all over the place as we&#039;ve seen. Green can mean positive and negative, as well as red. I would go with the traditional alchemical Dante symbolism when talking of Beatrice&#039;s eyes though.  Eyes are usually a reflection of the soul, like a mirror or water. The possibility of completly rebirthing your soul through redemption, forgiveness, and the shedding of blood or sacrifice through the color green representing your soul, is the strongest possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red, green and gold huh? Well red and green are complementary colors on the color wheel. They are opposites: one is warm and one is cool. When mixed together all three primaries are represented, thus getting a brownish color. I think the symbolism in HP is all over the place as we&#8217;ve seen. Green can mean positive and negative, as well as red. I would go with the traditional alchemical Dante symbolism when talking of Beatrice&#8217;s eyes though.  Eyes are usually a reflection of the soul, like a mirror or water. The possibility of completly rebirthing your soul through redemption, forgiveness, and the shedding of blood or sacrifice through the color green representing your soul, is the strongest possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: rumor</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about green meaning youth, in that, you are so naive in the world and have little knowledge of the world. You could be taken advantage of and the world makes you make hard choices and hopefully you make the right ones, even though it is hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about green meaning youth, in that, you are so naive in the world and have little knowledge of the world. You could be taken advantage of and the world makes you make hard choices and hopefully you make the right ones, even though it is hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Eeyore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eeyore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, that should say:

also as youth, hope and gladness but equally change, transitoriness and jealousy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, that should say:</p>
<p>also as youth, hope and gladness but equally change, transitoriness and jealousy.</p>
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		<title>By: Eeyore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eeyore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should be asleep, but Hans has brought up one of my favorite things to think about. I don&#039;t have answers either, but I did find quite a lot in a book I have, &quot;An Illustrated Encyclopaedia of Traditional Symbols&quot;, by J. C. Cooper, 1978. One of the things I like, is that for each entry, it gives the general symbolism, and then the meanings for different religions, and also for alchemy.

So here&#039;s part of the listing for GREEN:

&quot;Ambivalent as both life and death in the vernal green of life and the livid green of death; also as youth, hope and gladness bit equally change, transitoriness and jealousy.&quot;

Just that first part describes a lot of what is going on with Harry throughout the seven books. At times he is full of hope, and at times he is jealous. But all of his actions and reactions are a transition from the young boy we first meet to the young man who willingly faces Voldemort at the end.

In light (no pun intended) of what Hans said about the colors, this book goes on to say:

&quot;Compounded of blue and yellow, heaven and earth combined, green forms the mystic colour; it also combines the cold blue light of the intellect with the emotional warmth of the yellow sun to produce wisdom of equality, hope, renewal of life and resurrection.&quot;

So, thinking about Lily and Harry with that description seems to make their green eyes even more important - a visual reminder of their purpose and their intent.

&quot;ALCHEMIC: The Green Lion or Green Dragon is the beginning of the Great Work; the young corn god; growth; hope.&quot;

&quot;CHRISTIAN:  Vernal green is immortality; hope; the growth of the Holy Spirit in man; life; triumph over death and Spring over Winter. It is also initiation; good works, and in medieval times it became the colour of the Trinity, Epiphany and St John the Evangelist. Pale green is equated with Satan, evil and death.&quot;

That last is interesting. Rowling sometimes uses green as an ambiguous color - it shows both good and evil intent. The good is in Lily and Harry and Dobby, the evil in the Dark Mark, etc. - all the things listed by Hans. But if you think about both Harry and Lily, they both did have times when they weren&#039;t perfect, they had thoughts that were less than noble. So perhaps that is some of the reason for all the green. The characters or the events that have green all (or most) have that element of choice. Lily makes choices about her friendship with Severus, about how she reacts to James when he is a bully. Harry is making choices throughout the seven books.

Like Hans, I was struck with the contrast of seeing the rubies spilled on the floor at the end of HBP, and the emeralds in Deathly Hallows. It was that signal that the house connected to the emeralds was no longer in power as it had been.

I&#039;ve now lost my train of thought, so I&#039;ll just leave it there for now and try to make more sense of it tomorrow.

I see that the first part of this post is showing up without the rest, so perhaps, John, you could delete that part so it&#039;s all together. Otherwise, it&#039;ll make even less sense.

Pat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should be asleep, but Hans has brought up one of my favorite things to think about. I don&#8217;t have answers either, but I did find quite a lot in a book I have, &#8220;An Illustrated Encyclopaedia of Traditional Symbols&#8221;, by J. C. Cooper, 1978. One of the things I like, is that for each entry, it gives the general symbolism, and then the meanings for different religions, and also for alchemy.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s part of the listing for GREEN:</p>
<p>&#8220;Ambivalent as both life and death in the vernal green of life and the livid green of death; also as youth, hope and gladness bit equally change, transitoriness and jealousy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just that first part describes a lot of what is going on with Harry throughout the seven books. At times he is full of hope, and at times he is jealous. But all of his actions and reactions are a transition from the young boy we first meet to the young man who willingly faces Voldemort at the end.</p>
<p>In light (no pun intended) of what Hans said about the colors, this book goes on to say:</p>
<p>&#8220;Compounded of blue and yellow, heaven and earth combined, green forms the mystic colour; it also combines the cold blue light of the intellect with the emotional warmth of the yellow sun to produce wisdom of equality, hope, renewal of life and resurrection.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, thinking about Lily and Harry with that description seems to make their green eyes even more important &#8211; a visual reminder of their purpose and their intent.</p>
<p>&#8220;ALCHEMIC: The Green Lion or Green Dragon is the beginning of the Great Work; the young corn god; growth; hope.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;CHRISTIAN:  Vernal green is immortality; hope; the growth of the Holy Spirit in man; life; triumph over death and Spring over Winter. It is also initiation; good works, and in medieval times it became the colour of the Trinity, Epiphany and St John the Evangelist. Pale green is equated with Satan, evil and death.&#8221;</p>
<p>That last is interesting. Rowling sometimes uses green as an ambiguous color &#8211; it shows both good and evil intent. The good is in Lily and Harry and Dobby, the evil in the Dark Mark, etc. &#8211; all the things listed by Hans. But if you think about both Harry and Lily, they both did have times when they weren&#8217;t perfect, they had thoughts that were less than noble. So perhaps that is some of the reason for all the green. The characters or the events that have green all (or most) have that element of choice. Lily makes choices about her friendship with Severus, about how she reacts to James when he is a bully. Harry is making choices throughout the seven books.</p>
<p>Like Hans, I was struck with the contrast of seeing the rubies spilled on the floor at the end of HBP, and the emeralds in Deathly Hallows. It was that signal that the house connected to the emeralds was no longer in power as it had been.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve now lost my train of thought, so I&#8217;ll just leave it there for now and try to make more sense of it tomorrow.</p>
<p>I see that the first part of this post is showing up without the rest, so perhaps, John, you could delete that part so it&#8217;s all together. Otherwise, it&#8217;ll make even less sense.</p>
<p>Pat</p>
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		<title>By: Lily Luna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lily Luna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several comments-

This is non-responsive but additive - I note that Dobby&#039;s eyes also are green, which is consistent with Harry&#039;s and Lily&#039;s eyes being green, if you consider Dobby as Harry&#039;s disciple as has been discussed recently by others, I believe.  Also, the letters from Hogwarts received each summer are written in green ink, the merpeople&#039;s hair is dark green, Harry&#039;s dress robes are bottle green, and Rita Skeeter&#039;s robes and ink are acid green.  I also seem to recall Harry using green ink in one of the early books but don&#039;t have time now to go find the reference.

Green as the traditional symbol of hope makes a lot of sense in terms of the Harry Potter series and Harry&#039;s eyes.

It seems to me that there is a dual nature to the color green.  On the one hand there is the &quot;bad&quot; side of snakes, envy, and avarice/money which is consistent with the Slytherin reputation and the description of the Dark Mark.  On the other hand, green is also the color of plants, leaves, and grass, which go through an annual cycle of death and rebirth.  Hope would seem to spring from the verdant aspect of green.  Red and green are the colors of Christmas, with green coming from the evergreen tree and wreaths.  On JKR&#039;s website is a family tree showing who a number of the characters marry and the names of their children.  It shows Draco marrying a woman named Asteria Greengrass.  This may be one way of showing Draco&#039;s shift in focus from bad Slytherin towards a love of the good verdant side of Slytherin.

Hans raised the Quidditch World Cup, which I&#039;ve been wanting to write about for a while, but hadn&#039;t found a good posting to comment on where it would arguably be relevant.  I don&#039;t have time to write about it tonight as I would have liked, but I promise to bore you all in the morning with my thoughts!

And, briefly, if red symbolizes charity, and if charity could then be said to symbolize red, that gives new meaning to the murder of Charity Burbage at the beginning of DH.  It underscores the apparent defeat of Gryffindor at the end of HBP when the hourglass of rubies broke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several comments-</p>
<p>This is non-responsive but additive &#8211; I note that Dobby&#8217;s eyes also are green, which is consistent with Harry&#8217;s and Lily&#8217;s eyes being green, if you consider Dobby as Harry&#8217;s disciple as has been discussed recently by others, I believe.  Also, the letters from Hogwarts received each summer are written in green ink, the merpeople&#8217;s hair is dark green, Harry&#8217;s dress robes are bottle green, and Rita Skeeter&#8217;s robes and ink are acid green.  I also seem to recall Harry using green ink in one of the early books but don&#8217;t have time now to go find the reference.</p>
<p>Green as the traditional symbol of hope makes a lot of sense in terms of the Harry Potter series and Harry&#8217;s eyes.</p>
<p>It seems to me that there is a dual nature to the color green.  On the one hand there is the &#8220;bad&#8221; side of snakes, envy, and avarice/money which is consistent with the Slytherin reputation and the description of the Dark Mark.  On the other hand, green is also the color of plants, leaves, and grass, which go through an annual cycle of death and rebirth.  Hope would seem to spring from the verdant aspect of green.  Red and green are the colors of Christmas, with green coming from the evergreen tree and wreaths.  On JKR&#8217;s website is a family tree showing who a number of the characters marry and the names of their children.  It shows Draco marrying a woman named Asteria Greengrass.  This may be one way of showing Draco&#8217;s shift in focus from bad Slytherin towards a love of the good verdant side of Slytherin.</p>
<p>Hans raised the Quidditch World Cup, which I&#8217;ve been wanting to write about for a while, but hadn&#8217;t found a good posting to comment on where it would arguably be relevant.  I don&#8217;t have time to write about it tonight as I would have liked, but I promise to bore you all in the morning with my thoughts!</p>
<p>And, briefly, if red symbolizes charity, and if charity could then be said to symbolize red, that gives new meaning to the murder of Charity Burbage at the beginning of DH.  It underscores the apparent defeat of Gryffindor at the end of HBP when the hourglass of rubies broke.</p>
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		<title>By: rumor</title>
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		<dc:creator>rumor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick note: In my symbolism book, traditionally it is said that Dante wanted Beatrice clothed in the three colors of green, white and red. Respectively expressing hope, faith and charity. Green being hope, very traditional symbolism he was very familiar with. It is said that the Virgin Mary is the opposite of Eve. This being because of Jesus coming to right the wrongs of Adam. Mary rights the wrongs of Eve. Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick note: In my symbolism book, traditionally it is said that Dante wanted Beatrice clothed in the three colors of green, white and red. Respectively expressing hope, faith and charity. Green being hope, very traditional symbolism he was very familiar with. It is said that the Virgin Mary is the opposite of Eve. This being because of Jesus coming to right the wrongs of Adam. Mary rights the wrongs of Eve. Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Arabella Figg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arabella Figg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it might be interesting to look at the chemical properties of emerald and how they might be interpreted symbolically. Here&#039;s what I found at Wikipedia; it may or may not be helpful:

&quot;The emerald, which is colored green by trace amounts of chromium (a steely-gray, lustrous, hard metal that takes a high polish and has a high melting point…[it] was regarded with great interest due to its high corrosion resistance and hardness) and sometimes vanadium (the chemical element with the symbol V and atomic number 23. It is a soft, silvery grey).[15]

&quot;Green is considered one of the additive primary colors, along with red and blue. In subtractive color mixtures, green is created by mixing yellow and blue pigments or dyes. On the HSV Color Wheel, the complement of green is magenta; that is, a color corresponding to an equal mixture of red and blue light…. On a traditional color wheel, based on subtractive color, the complementary color to green is considered to be red.[6]&quot;

Some of the properties (qualities) above are certainly reflected in Lily&#039;s and Harry&#039;s character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it might be interesting to look at the chemical properties of emerald and how they might be interpreted symbolically. Here&#8217;s what I found at Wikipedia; it may or may not be helpful:</p>
<p>&#8220;The emerald, which is colored green by trace amounts of chromium (a steely-gray, lustrous, hard metal that takes a high polish and has a high melting point…[it] was regarded with great interest due to its high corrosion resistance and hardness) and sometimes vanadium (the chemical element with the symbol V and atomic number 23. It is a soft, silvery grey).[15]</p>
<p>&#8220;Green is considered one of the additive primary colors, along with red and blue. In subtractive color mixtures, green is created by mixing yellow and blue pigments or dyes. On the HSV Color Wheel, the complement of green is magenta; that is, a color corresponding to an equal mixture of red and blue light…. On a traditional color wheel, based on subtractive color, the complementary color to green is considered to be red.[6]&#8221;</p>
<p>Some of the properties (qualities) above are certainly reflected in Lily&#8217;s and Harry&#8217;s character.</p>
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