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		<title>By: IstariErangua</title>
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		<description>I think everyone has made some really valid points on the Hallows and how they should be used and what Dumbledore is implying when he leaves his notes. I especially agree that the biggest trick of the Hallows is that they shouldn&#039;t be used, ultimately, until you&#039;ve really reached the end of the rope as Harry did, when he believed completely that he had nothing left to lose. I feel a sense of similarity with Harry&#039;s walk in the forest under the cloak and the way the third brother used it to hide from Death. I don&#039;t know exactly how to describe it, but just like the third brother, he met Death on his own terms, not hiding anymore, and choosing his own time to approach, no fighting, no tricks, but not meeting Death as an equal, quite, because he believed that the only purpose was to be mastered by Death, in this case, Voldemort, which wouldn&#039;t make him an equal, and which Dumbledore would probably prove him as superior to Voldemort, and a master of Death also. I don&#039;t think I&#039;m explaining this well, but I get the impression that in the Tale of the Three Brothers, rather than just taking people as their time comes, Death is something of a malevolent trickster, who lures more people to meet him for his own inscrutable reasons. And the third brother, and to an extent Harry, because of their openness when the right time came, and their directness in approaching Death, out-tricked the trickster by not playing a trick or trying to escape. I feel like I&#039;m babbling now, so I&#039;ll stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone has made some really valid points on the Hallows and how they should be used and what Dumbledore is implying when he leaves his notes. I especially agree that the biggest trick of the Hallows is that they shouldn&#8217;t be used, ultimately, until you&#8217;ve really reached the end of the rope as Harry did, when he believed completely that he had nothing left to lose. I feel a sense of similarity with Harry&#8217;s walk in the forest under the cloak and the way the third brother used it to hide from Death. I don&#8217;t know exactly how to describe it, but just like the third brother, he met Death on his own terms, not hiding anymore, and choosing his own time to approach, no fighting, no tricks, but not meeting Death as an equal, quite, because he believed that the only purpose was to be mastered by Death, in this case, Voldemort, which wouldn&#8217;t make him an equal, and which Dumbledore would probably prove him as superior to Voldemort, and a master of Death also. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m explaining this well, but I get the impression that in the Tale of the Three Brothers, rather than just taking people as their time comes, Death is something of a malevolent trickster, who lures more people to meet him for his own inscrutable reasons. And the third brother, and to an extent Harry, because of their openness when the right time came, and their directness in approaching Death, out-tricked the trickster by not playing a trick or trying to escape. I feel like I&#8217;m babbling now, so I&#8217;ll stop.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Harry Potter series &quot;penny-dreadful&quot;, &quot;the kind of cheap, short novel....&quot;?
Is Professor Jacobs reading the same Harry Potter series we are? Or did he mistake one of those &quot;paperback novels&quot; at the drug store for Harry Potter?

True, JKR&#039;s style is not the pure poetic/prose we find in the Classics, but penny-dreadful? Has Prof. Jacobs looked at any news clips of JKR&#039;s bank account lately?

&quot;The particular target of their disapproval was the boy&#039;s adventure story—the kind of cheap short novel, full of exotic locations and narrow escapes from mortal peril and false friends and unexpected acts of heroism, that had come to be known as the &quot;penny dreadful.&quot;

The Harry Potter series totals over 4,100 pages!!! How does that figure fit Jacobs description of JKR&#039;s work? Not even close in my view.

 revgeorge, I agree that Prof. Jacobs missed it on the Christ figure point as well. While I personally hesitate to point to anyone as a &quot;Christ figure&quot;, but I look to Harry&#039;s walk in the Forest as being &quot;Christ-like&quot;, yes Harry is standing in for Christ in the Forest,  in the element of self-sacrifice and love to &quot;save&quot; his friends and the Wizarding World.

The only thing I can think of when Jacobs states that Christ was abandoned in His agony,  was at the moment of His arrest by the temple guards at the Garden of Gethsemane when the Apostles scattered to the four winds. Our Lord was not alone or abandoned along the Via Dolorosa or at the Cross.

John, I would like to see you present a post on &quot;Hidden Keys&quot; to contrast Jacobs lack of insight in this area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Harry Potter series &#8220;penny-dreadful&#8221;, &#8220;the kind of cheap, short novel&#8230;.&#8221;?<br />
Is Professor Jacobs reading the same Harry Potter series we are? Or did he mistake one of those &#8220;paperback novels&#8221; at the drug store for Harry Potter?</p>
<p>True, JKR&#8217;s style is not the pure poetic/prose we find in the Classics, but penny-dreadful? Has Prof. Jacobs looked at any news clips of JKR&#8217;s bank account lately?</p>
<p>&#8220;The particular target of their disapproval was the boy&#8217;s adventure story—the kind of cheap short novel, full of exotic locations and narrow escapes from mortal peril and false friends and unexpected acts of heroism, that had come to be known as the &#8220;penny dreadful.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Harry Potter series totals over 4,100 pages!!! How does that figure fit Jacobs description of JKR&#8217;s work? Not even close in my view.</p>
<p> revgeorge, I agree that Prof. Jacobs missed it on the Christ figure point as well. While I personally hesitate to point to anyone as a &#8220;Christ figure&#8221;, but I look to Harry&#8217;s walk in the Forest as being &#8220;Christ-like&#8221;, yes Harry is standing in for Christ in the Forest,  in the element of self-sacrifice and love to &#8220;save&#8221; his friends and the Wizarding World.</p>
<p>The only thing I can think of when Jacobs states that Christ was abandoned in His agony,  was at the moment of His arrest by the temple guards at the Garden of Gethsemane when the Apostles scattered to the four winds. Our Lord was not alone or abandoned along the Via Dolorosa or at the Cross.</p>
<p>John, I would like to see you present a post on &#8220;Hidden Keys&#8221; to contrast Jacobs lack of insight in this area.</p>
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		<title>By: revgeorge</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read the Jacob&#039;s piece, too.  Agree with Red Rocker&#039;s comments.  And yours too, John.  He almost but not quite gets it.  I can buy that Harry is not a Christ figure in most of the novels but to say that at the end of his walk in the Forest he is not standing in for Christ there?  Rubbish.  In fact, if you want to push the totally alone bit, our Lord died with family &amp; friends at the foot of the cross.  Harry dies alone, except for maybe Hagrid being there; otherwise he is totally surrounded by his enemies.

And no hidden keys?  Give me a break!  Has this guy ever read Revelation?  He raises a valid concern, of course, in that if one tries hard enough, you could read all sorts of meanings into things that don&#039;t necessarily mean what you think they mean.  But the corrective to this is not to reject any deeper or hidden meanings.  The unus sensus literalis approach brings up its own problems.

Ah well, like you all said, academia is a bore sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read the Jacob&#8217;s piece, too.  Agree with Red Rocker&#8217;s comments.  And yours too, John.  He almost but not quite gets it.  I can buy that Harry is not a Christ figure in most of the novels but to say that at the end of his walk in the Forest he is not standing in for Christ there?  Rubbish.  In fact, if you want to push the totally alone bit, our Lord died with family &amp; friends at the foot of the cross.  Harry dies alone, except for maybe Hagrid being there; otherwise he is totally surrounded by his enemies.</p>
<p>And no hidden keys?  Give me a break!  Has this guy ever read Revelation?  He raises a valid concern, of course, in that if one tries hard enough, you could read all sorts of meanings into things that don&#8217;t necessarily mean what you think they mean.  But the corrective to this is not to reject any deeper or hidden meanings.  The unus sensus literalis approach brings up its own problems.</p>
<p>Ah well, like you all said, academia is a bore sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Rocker</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read Jacobs&#039; piece. It&#039;s not that bad, except for the left-handed compliment, calling HP the best of the penny-dreadfuls. Which goes to prove my point (on the post about your article in &lt;i&gt;Touchstone&lt;/i&gt;) that when academia praises Potter, they will do it in just such a sneering way: &lt;i&gt;a hundred cliches move us!&lt;/i&gt;

And yes, he did miss the Christ analogy. Not so much missed it, actually, as argued against it.  Because Harry wasn&#039;t special enough, and because he didn&#039;t die alone.  Not to be profane or anything, Mr. Jacobs, but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read Jacobs&#8217; piece. It&#8217;s not that bad, except for the left-handed compliment, calling HP the best of the penny-dreadfuls. Which goes to prove my point (on the post about your article in <i>Touchstone</i>) that when academia praises Potter, they will do it in just such a sneering way: <i>a hundred cliches move us!</i></p>
<p>And yes, he did miss the Christ analogy. Not so much missed it, actually, as argued against it.  Because Harry wasn&#8217;t special enough, and because he didn&#8217;t die alone.  Not to be profane or anything, Mr. Jacobs, but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m guessing that you&#039;re remembering Alan Jacobs&#039; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.christianitytoday.com/bc/2007/005/1.47.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;piece in Christianity Today on &#039;Deathly Hallows.&#039;&lt;/a&gt; The trick is in understanding the symbolism of the Cloak and Harry&#039;s eye-dentification with it, which Jacobs misses pretty much wholecloth (and leads to his confident dismissal, &quot;Harry Potter is not a Christ figure&quot;).

The real hoot of that piece, though, beside the patronizing &quot;greatest penny dreadful&quot; summary point, is that in it Prof. Jacobs, the leading voice is the &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firstthings.com/article.php3?id_article=5332&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;there is no &#039;hidden key&#039; to Shakespeare, Harry Potter, anybody!&lt;/a&gt;&quot; school, offers his secret reading of &#039;The Tale of the Three Brothers.&#039; Allegorical and anagogical readings are only valid (or to be taken seriously) when they come from the credentialed guys in the Tower?

I should do a post about Jacobs&#039; thesis that &#039;Hidden Key&#039; searches are inevitably poor scholarship and just laziness; Michael Ward&#039;s Planet Narnia and, forgive me, my dilletante&#039;s exploration of Potter-dom I think argue to the contrary. What does Jacob say to Ms. Rowling&#039;s comments about her faith and 1998 statement about alchemy setting the &quot;magical parameters&quot; of her work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m guessing that you&#8217;re remembering Alan Jacobs&#8217; <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/bc/2007/005/1.47.html" rel="nofollow">piece in Christianity Today on &#8216;Deathly Hallows.&#8217;</a> The trick is in understanding the symbolism of the Cloak and Harry&#8217;s eye-dentification with it, which Jacobs misses pretty much wholecloth (and leads to his confident dismissal, &#8220;Harry Potter is not a Christ figure&#8221;).</p>
<p>The real hoot of that piece, though, beside the patronizing &#8220;greatest penny dreadful&#8221; summary point, is that in it Prof. Jacobs, the leading voice is the &#8220;<a href="http://www.firstthings.com/article.php3?id_article=5332" rel="nofollow">there is no &#8216;hidden key&#8217; to Shakespeare, Harry Potter, anybody!</a>&#8221; school, offers his secret reading of &#8216;The Tale of the Three Brothers.&#8217; Allegorical and anagogical readings are only valid (or to be taken seriously) when they come from the credentialed guys in the Tower?</p>
<p>I should do a post about Jacobs&#8217; thesis that &#8216;Hidden Key&#8217; searches are inevitably poor scholarship and just laziness; Michael Ward&#8217;s Planet Narnia and, forgive me, my dilletante&#8217;s exploration of Potter-dom I think argue to the contrary. What does Jacob say to Ms. Rowling&#8217;s comments about her faith and 1998 statement about alchemy setting the &#8220;magical parameters&#8221; of her work?</p>
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		<title>By: Red Rocker</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The commentary on &lt;i&gt;Three Brothers&lt;/i&gt; as a secret message to Harry and his friends? Absolutely. Not to mention an instance of Dumbledore being very clever and doubly enjoying his cleverness, because he finally has an audience which will appreciate just how doggone clever he is.

I&#039;m not being sarcastic; I love Dumbledore, I just don&#039;t see him as at all humble. I can just imagine his glee as he leaves his secret message in plain view, a la Dupin&#039;s Purloined Letter.

I&#039;m not quite convinced about this Arthurian &quot;fitness&quot; ideal. As I wrote elsewhere, the whole point of the Hallows is that a pure man will &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; use the first two, because they are traps designed by Death to snare the unwary. So it&#039;s not so much that only a good man can wield them, as that a good man will &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; wield them. And Harry, as far as I can remember, only uses the Elder wand to fix his own trusty holly-phoenix  feather wand. He doesn&#039;t zap anyone with it. And he only uses the Resurrection stone once he&#039;s committed himself to dying. So in a way, he tricks death by reversing how people have traditionally used the first two Hallows.

In fact, you could construe all of DH as the story of how Harry, like the third brother, tricks death. I don&#039;t think I&#039;m the first to come up with that analogy, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The commentary on <i>Three Brothers</i> as a secret message to Harry and his friends? Absolutely. Not to mention an instance of Dumbledore being very clever and doubly enjoying his cleverness, because he finally has an audience which will appreciate just how doggone clever he is.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not being sarcastic; I love Dumbledore, I just don&#8217;t see him as at all humble. I can just imagine his glee as he leaves his secret message in plain view, a la Dupin&#8217;s Purloined Letter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite convinced about this Arthurian &#8220;fitness&#8221; ideal. As I wrote elsewhere, the whole point of the Hallows is that a pure man will <i>not</i> use the first two, because they are traps designed by Death to snare the unwary. So it&#8217;s not so much that only a good man can wield them, as that a good man will <i>not</i> wield them. And Harry, as far as I can remember, only uses the Elder wand to fix his own trusty holly-phoenix  feather wand. He doesn&#8217;t zap anyone with it. And he only uses the Resurrection stone once he&#8217;s committed himself to dying. So in a way, he tricks death by reversing how people have traditionally used the first two Hallows.</p>
<p>In fact, you could construe all of DH as the story of how Harry, like the third brother, tricks death. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m the first to come up with that analogy, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw his commentary on the &quot;Three Brothers&quot; as being - literally - a confession to anyone who knew of his history with the Hallows. On the one hand, he denies and ridicules the idea of Hallows existing, and at the same time knows far too much about them to believe they are not real.

As he says, the idea of the three invincible weapons that make the possessor &#039;the master of death&#039;, is in direct contradiction to the whole point of the tale itself. The point of the story is that - whether or not they exist - Hallows, like Horcruxes, are to be left alone. In the commentary in the stories preceding &#039;the three brothers,&#039; Dumbledore quotes himself, saying &quot;Human beings have a knack for desiring the things that are the worst for them.&quot;

I thought his goal of denying the existence of the Hallows was a well-meaning attempt to keep others from the very temptation to power that he himself fell prey to, and, at the last, admits that he would find it easiest to give up the cloak of invisibility (which, of course, is true, since he gave it up to Harry). He never gave up the Deathstick like Harry did, and when confronted with the discovery of the resurrection stone he could not resist the temptation to use it, causing his own death.

All in all, a brilliant work worthy of the Potterverse and up there with the best of the series. I get chills every time I read the &quot;Fountain of Fair Fortune,&quot; and &quot;The Hairy Heart&quot; is just spectacular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw his commentary on the &#8220;Three Brothers&#8221; as being &#8211; literally &#8211; a confession to anyone who knew of his history with the Hallows. On the one hand, he denies and ridicules the idea of Hallows existing, and at the same time knows far too much about them to believe they are not real.</p>
<p>As he says, the idea of the three invincible weapons that make the possessor &#8216;the master of death&#8217;, is in direct contradiction to the whole point of the tale itself. The point of the story is that &#8211; whether or not they exist &#8211; Hallows, like Horcruxes, are to be left alone. In the commentary in the stories preceding &#8216;the three brothers,&#8217; Dumbledore quotes himself, saying &#8220;Human beings have a knack for desiring the things that are the worst for them.&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought his goal of denying the existence of the Hallows was a well-meaning attempt to keep others from the very temptation to power that he himself fell prey to, and, at the last, admits that he would find it easiest to give up the cloak of invisibility (which, of course, is true, since he gave it up to Harry). He never gave up the Deathstick like Harry did, and when confronted with the discovery of the resurrection stone he could not resist the temptation to use it, causing his own death.</p>
<p>All in all, a brilliant work worthy of the Potterverse and up there with the best of the series. I get chills every time I read the &#8220;Fountain of Fair Fortune,&#8221; and &#8220;The Hairy Heart&#8221; is just spectacular.</p>
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