Comments on: PDay Minus Four — Prediction #4: Through the Veil http://www.hogwartsprofessor.com/pday-minus-four-prediction-4-through-the-veil/ Thoughts for the Serious Reader of Harry Potter Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:44:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: trainerjen4 http://www.hogwartsprofessor.com/pday-minus-four-prediction-4-through-the-veil/comment-page-1/#comment-694 trainerjen4 Sun, 29 Jul 2007 07:18:59 +0000 http://hogwartsprofessor.com/?p=106#comment-694 Sorry. John. I never can get that right. I wanted to say, that I sent the Zossima press article "Harry Potter and the Baptism of the Imagination" to my brother (who up until a few weeks ago has been a staunch "Harry Hater". I've tried using my own words, and even your books, but NOTHING convinced him like that article did. The sun rises and falls in CS Lewis's eyes for Dan, and for him to realize that HP may be one of the stories to keep the "sleeping dragons" asleep, well, he's intrigued. He is just finishing POA, and is already telling me how much Christian symbolism he's finding. I thank you Mr. Granger, for this. It's truely been a miracle and a blessing in our lives. God Bless. If this isn't the proper place for this, I apologize. Feel free to move or delete it. I'm having trouble navigating, even though I've come to this site for awhile. There's been a lot of upgrades (LOOKS GREAT!). Forgive me. Thanks so much, and please don't be annoyed by the newbie. :D Sorry. John. I never can get that right.

I wanted to say, that I sent the Zossima press article “Harry Potter and the Baptism of the Imagination” to my brother (who up until a few weeks ago has been a staunch “Harry Hater”. I’ve tried using my own words, and even your books, but NOTHING convinced him like that article did. The sun rises and falls in CS Lewis’s eyes for Dan, and for him to realize that HP may be one of the stories to keep the “sleeping dragons” asleep, well, he’s intrigued. He is just finishing POA, and is already telling me how much Christian symbolism he’s finding.

I thank you Mr. Granger, for this. It’s truely been a miracle and a blessing in our lives.

God Bless.

If this isn’t the proper place for this, I apologize. Feel free to move or delete it. I’m having trouble navigating, even though I’ve come to this site for awhile. There’s been a lot of upgrades (LOOKS GREAT!). Forgive me.

Thanks so much, and please don’t be annoyed by the newbie. :D

]]> By: trainerjen4 http://www.hogwartsprofessor.com/pday-minus-four-prediction-4-through-the-veil/comment-page-1/#comment-693 trainerjen4 Sun, 29 Jul 2007 07:12:03 +0000 http://hogwartsprofessor.com/?p=106#comment-693 I have SO much to say. I plan to come back and read through tomorrow after Church. THANK YOU JON! I have a lot to say. I really do. Trust me, I'm a wordy so and so. LOL. I've been following this site for years, and just signed up now. Not sure why, but yeah. LOL I'm VERY well versed in HP. I'm also very well versed in the Bible. I'm looking forward to some wonderful discussion, where people aren't going to tell me I'm damned to hell. :P I have SO much to say. I plan to come back and read through tomorrow after Church.

THANK YOU JON!

I have a lot to say. I really do. Trust me, I’m a wordy so and so. LOL. I’ve been following this site for years, and just signed up now. Not sure why, but yeah. LOL

I’m VERY well versed in HP. I’m also very well versed in the Bible. I’m looking forward to some wonderful discussion, where people aren’t going to tell me I’m damned to hell. :P

]]> By: John http://www.hogwartsprofessor.com/pday-minus-four-prediction-4-through-the-veil/comment-page-1/#comment-692 John Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:36:16 +0000 http://hogwartsprofessor.com/?p=106#comment-692 That's the best guess I've read so far on the two consonants and a vowel! Harrow to hollow... neat. That’s the best guess I’ve read so far on the two consonants and a vowel! Harrow to hollow… neat.

]]> By: ExpectoBeagle http://www.hogwartsprofessor.com/pday-minus-four-prediction-4-through-the-veil/comment-page-1/#comment-691 ExpectoBeagle Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:24:43 +0000 http://hogwartsprofessor.com/?p=106#comment-691 I'm not nearly as well-versed in HP as the regular posters here, but this article triggered a memory of JKR's comment about the title and "two consonants and a vowel." I guess there has been limitless speculation on what she meant, but I offer the following suggestion. Could the word she was changing be "harrow/hallow/hollow"? She has mentioned that there is a graveyard at Hogwarts. I believe Hallows has been used as a term for graveyard. Also, Godric Hollow could be a Hallow, meaning the gravesite of Godric Gryffindor. Perhaps Godric Hollow is really Godric's Hallow, his grave and the site of the final battle between HP and LV? I’m not nearly as well-versed in HP as the regular posters here, but this article triggered a memory of JKR’s comment about the title and “two consonants and a vowel.” I guess there has been limitless speculation on what she meant, but I offer the following suggestion.

Could the word she was changing be “harrow/hallow/hollow”? She has mentioned that there is a graveyard at Hogwarts. I believe Hallows has been used as a term for graveyard. Also, Godric Hollow could be a Hallow, meaning the gravesite of Godric Gryffindor. Perhaps Godric Hollow is really Godric’s Hallow, his grave and the site of the final battle between HP and LV?

]]> By: John http://www.hogwartsprofessor.com/pday-minus-four-prediction-4-through-the-veil/comment-page-1/#comment-690 John Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:12:45 +0000 http://hogwartsprofessor.com/?p=106#comment-690 In my Veil post, I wrote that, if Harry goes through the Veil and returns, he upsets the usual "resurrection-in-the-presense-of-a-symbol-of-Christ" formula of the other books to act "<em>as</em> a symbol of Christ." As bad as the MuggleNet editorial is (very bad -- a point to point Bible allegory? Sheesh...), it may have had one nugget in it that Christians have been wondering about since the Vancouver interview. In my Veil post, I wrote that, if Harry goes through the Veil and returns, he upsets the usual “resurrection-in-the-presense-of-a-symbol-of-Christ” formula of the other books to act “as a symbol of Christ.” As bad as the MuggleNet editorial is (very bad — a point to point Bible allegory? Sheesh…), it may have had one nugget in it that Christians have been wondering about since the Vancouver interview.

]]> By: Travis Prinzi http://www.hogwartsprofessor.com/pday-minus-four-prediction-4-through-the-veil/comment-page-1/#comment-689 Travis Prinzi Thu, 19 Jul 2007 03:38:11 +0000 http://hogwartsprofessor.com/?p=106#comment-689 I'm still inclined against a journey through the veil for literary reasons I've already expressed, and yet...the idea intrigues me, as evidenced by my own speculations about Dumbledore having gone through in his stoppered death state. While I think this unlikely now, a thought did strike me tonight: I know there's been discussion about Book 7 paralleling Book 3, but I've always been more inclined to think Book 7 will parallel Book 1 (with 3 & 5, 2 & 6 being the other parallels). If I'm right about this - could the veil figure into the final battle and defeat of Voldemort? When Harry descended into the Underworld to defeat Quirrelmort, he blacked out for 3 days before coming back, the victory won due to Dumbledore's timely rescue. What if book 7's climax is a battle in the death room in which Harry and Voldemort both fall through the veil together (Harry forcing him there deliberately)? Harry would then return (after 3 days?), having defeated Voldemort in death and returning to the world of the living, victory in hand, having conquered death and the Dark Lord in "hell." Now <em>that</em> would settle the question of the Christian content once and for all. Oh, look - I just went and read the <a href="http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/editorials/edit-beauseigneura01.shtml" rel="nofollow">Mugglenet editorial</a> before posting this and realized that this is exactly what's being argued. Hate it when I have an independent idea and find it's already been taken! In any case, this scenario is unlikely, since, as John and I discussed over at SoG, Harry is most likely not a direct Christ-allegory. I’m still inclined against a journey through the veil for literary reasons I’ve already expressed, and yet…the idea intrigues me, as evidenced by my own speculations about Dumbledore having gone through in his stoppered death state. While I think this unlikely now, a thought did strike me tonight:

I know there’s been discussion about Book 7 paralleling Book 3, but I’ve always been more inclined to think Book 7 will parallel Book 1 (with 3 & 5, 2 & 6 being the other parallels). If I’m right about this – could the veil figure into the final battle and defeat of Voldemort? When Harry descended into the Underworld to defeat Quirrelmort, he blacked out for 3 days before coming back, the victory won due to Dumbledore’s timely rescue.

What if book 7′s climax is a battle in the death room in which Harry and Voldemort both fall through the veil together (Harry forcing him there deliberately)? Harry would then return (after 3 days?), having defeated Voldemort in death and returning to the world of the living, victory in hand, having conquered death and the Dark Lord in “hell.”

Now that would settle the question of the Christian content once and for all.

Oh, look – I just went and read the Mugglenet editorial before posting this and realized that this is exactly what’s being argued. Hate it when I have an independent idea and find it’s already been taken!

In any case, this scenario is unlikely, since, as John and I discussed over at SoG, Harry is most likely not a direct Christ-allegory.

]]> By: steve http://www.hogwartsprofessor.com/pday-minus-four-prediction-4-through-the-veil/comment-page-1/#comment-688 steve Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:57:46 +0000 http://hogwartsprofessor.com/?p=106#comment-688 Not sure if this helps, but I was thinking while reading HBP that as Harry took on more leadership roles, that he wouldn't be completely killed because he would end up a neccessary leader of the wizarding world, sort of like the new dumbledore. In which case the previous books would have foreshadowed that. Steve Not sure if this helps, but I was thinking while reading HBP that as Harry took on more leadership roles, that he wouldn’t be completely killed because he would end up a neccessary leader of the wizarding world, sort of like the new dumbledore. In which case the previous books would have foreshadowed that.

Steve

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